Biblical Slavery –

How God gives the Green Light to owning human beings and treating them as property.

The topic of slavery is probably the one topic that sets off Dillahunty, and he often goes spare!

If there was only one reason not to be Christian, then the sanctioning of slavery by the god Christians worship should be it.

Have a listen.

You can pick up the conversation at the 7 minute mark.

 


41 thoughts on “Biblical Slavery –

          1. These days he is a lot less reserved than a few years ago. Maybe all the fools he engages with has finally got to him and he flies off the handle a lot quicker?

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  1. I’m sorry ark/ but Matt is truly clueless as to trying to accuse a God he cannot fathom- of laying out rules and regulations in a world gone sideways.

    But I would control the narrative and ask him: is it right or wrong for a man to lay with a horse Instead of a woman, and why?

    You see, context and understanding of things beyond his pay grade is a bitch.

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    1. Maybe you are correct as far as Dillahunty is concerned? In truth, I don’t know the bloke from a bar of soap.

      So on what grounds – if any – do you consider it morally acceptable to own/enslave another human being and regard them as property?
      Please be specific .
      Thanks-

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      1. And if he even HINTS that he doesn’t abide by or silently approve of God-ordained human slavery/property Ark, then CS is a flat-out liar… OR he has one HELL OF A circus-act explanation/justification that likens a game of Whack-a-Mole! πŸ™„

        And if he never replies either, THAT is an answer as well! πŸ˜‰

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      2. I like the idea of the earring and the aul. Specific instructions which are one of many (613) to be considered by not you or I, nor the Chinese, etc, but to the Israelites/ mainly to keep their race intact ( Hitler etc) and time remind them of their own waywardness.

        The time has long passed since these things are relevant. That said , the 7th year of jubilee is a wonderful time to consider.

        Some slaves would never dream of trading their lives of luxury as they earned a paycheck. But men in general, are all slaves to someone or something.

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          1. Let me reiterate to save you having to scroll up. I’ve emboldened the most important part for you to address.

            So on what grounds – if any – do you consider it morally acceptable to own/enslave another human being and regard them as property?

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          2. Whoops. Accidentally hit the “Send” link instead of scrolling down. My apologies Arkesatan. πŸ˜‰

            Anyway, to the above… SEE? What did I tell you he would do? Hell, Colon-Storm might even try to answer in all 3 of those ways I foretold… like the prophet Isaiah or The Baptist!? πŸ˜†

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          3. But Ark, if he answers “yes” to that then he is implicitly defying, correcting, and perhaps disobeying his God/Savior! That’s a TRAP question Arkesatan! 🀭 And if he says “no,” well… it isn’t rocket science to figure out what CS supports or approves. 😈

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          4. Hi prof-

            613 laws. To Israel. People have benefited from the obvious emoluments of law and order.

            But your greater concern should be whether it is moral for the lion to eat the deer.

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          5. 613 laws. To Israel.

            (sigh) Alright, I’ll reluctantly indulge you because those are the only three words and a number that have any relevance to Ark’s simple question to you.

            So then, PLEASE… as concisely as is possible—and I/we know exactly how concise you SHOULD get!—tell us how many Laws, that is Canonical Laws, for Christians there are based upon their Old and New Testaments? Do any of them address human slavery? Simple question with a simple brief answer. And NO Colon-storm, this part of Laws has nothing to do at all with “Israel.”

            No other concerns in the least. Sorry CS. But you are more than welcome to go back to your fantasy world of Divine rights and wisdom. πŸ˜„

            Ark — Good luck with getting a straight answer. It’s going to be a long-ass run of rabbit trails everywhere this little meowing Kitty Cat wants to take you on. πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜›

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        1. @CrapulentStream jabbers:
          “The time has long passed since these things are [sic] relevant.”

          That’s the same way many of us feel about Original Sin, or the fabled 1st century Palestinian Jew dying “for our sins.”

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    2. @PatronizingGit:
      “But I would control the narrative…”

      Yes, you’re a genius at asking questions irrelevant to the topic at hand.

      “You see, context and understanding…”

      What context? This is supposed to be the word of your god. You’re a Christian apologist, but you should really be apologising for your continued, unwanted presence here at a site beyond your pay grade.

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      1. Chris, have you seen the 2010 film Dinner for Schmucks with Steve Carell? Remember the sharp wit and acute awareness of Barry Speck—notice my sheer sarcasm—and how he is NEVER aware of what is really going on, especially once at the “Talent Show” Banquet dinner? πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈπŸ˜„

        Well Colon-Storm is the spitting, identical twin of Barry Speck… who truly believes he is special, Chosen, and given a divine Gnosis of incomprehensible righteousness and biblical exegesis! 🀣🀣🀣 What is even more sad Chris is that Colon-Storm isn’t even the slightest bit aware of his acute disillusionment and grandiose ideas of his self-appointed brilliance. 🀭

        In the end, one can only have deep pity for the little man who thinks he’s a lion. Lol

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        1. Ha! Barry “Speck”!
          What a fitting name for our regular contributor of incoherence. I’m already whistling the Jeopardy ‘waiting’ music everytime I read his comments.

          If only they could play it over footage of Trump or some evangelical, everytime they open their mouths…while we wait for them to string an intelligent sentence together.
          πŸ‘Ό=πŸ’©

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  2. I believe the majority of the Christian bible’s most atrocious, inhumane permissions from their God/Father and Savior/Son of treatments on other humans come from the Old Testament (Covenant). However, the New Testament (Covenant) has its share of asinine, hateful permissions as well. For example…

    “…they will pick up snakes in their hands, and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.” — Mark 16:18

    “Let a woman learn in silence with full submission. I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she is to keep silent.” — 1 Tim. 2:11-12

    “Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ;” — Ephesians 6:5

    If that ancient antiquated book of stories, myths, and fantastical fiction is direct from God’s mouth/head or inspired by Him, then that Deity is one HUGE screw-up, several times over because He never did and still doesn’t learn from his own major EFF-UPS! πŸ˜„ And any sane(?), normal(?) person who follows Him/It/Her is no different and should have a full psychiatric-psychological workup and assessment for mental-illness or a neurological disorder. πŸ˜‰

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          1. πŸ˜„ Just repeating what 100% of Fundy-Evangy Xians blabber… that EVERY single word in the modern canonical New Testament—and Old too—is God-breathed straight onto the papyrus/pages, straight from His shark-like mouth and Jurassic-smelling breath! Or is it Triassic-smelling? πŸ€”πŸ€­

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          2. This one! This bute is from 165-million years ago! All 5-6 different methods of dating the fossil confirmed its age. Not just TRUE, but utterly fascinating as well, huh!? πŸ˜‰

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  3. Look, God really wanted to end slavery, but the Jews are tough negotiators. They told him in no uncertain terms: that the “no slaves” clause in the Chosen People covenant was a deal breaker.

    So God capitulated and said “Fine! But in exchange for the right to own slaves you must agree not to wear mixed fabrics or shave the sides of your head. Deal?”

    To which they responded, “Done! Sign here.”

    And the rest, as they say, is history.

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  4. So if ‘slave’ in the OT should really be translated (or whitewashed) as ‘servant’ or ‘bondservant’ — according to the sort of apologist that Dillahunty engaged with — does that mean the Israelites in Egypt should be labelled as such, too?

    Or would that not fit with the Exodus myth of deliverance from oppressive bondage by the One True God Who Rules Them Allβ„’?

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  5. Given the purpose of the show and all that the hosts must deal with, frustration with foolishness should be expected. Good show, good post. Thanks, Ark.

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