33 thoughts on “If you thought things could not be any more insane … well, think again.

      1. …mans inhumanity to man-

        Ark, wasn’t that inhumane behavior inspired by a self-created God? Though there are layers under layers of facts, causes and effects, etc, that comment smacks of missing the mark all together, not addressing the marrow of the behavior, its sources. Then it smacks of insincerity. Idk, I could be wrong. 🤔

        One source of many: The economic poverty that almost all of these militant Muslims are either born into, grow up in, then making them the most susceptible, most vulnerable boys/teenagers to be psychologically molded.

        A plethora of award-winning investigative documentaries have all but shown/proven this. PBS Frontline had one 2-3 years ago in Afghanistan that blows a viewers mind at the brainwashing that goes on to these little boys.

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        1. If Islam is the religion of Peace, then shouldn’t Islamic extremists be extremely peaceful?

          This notion that poverty drives extremism I think is absolute bunk. It’s not the poor who flooded into ISIS territory. It wasn’t the poor who fly planes into buildings. It’s not the poor who plan and carry out murderous civilian bombings. But it can be argued more successfully I think that the victims of Islamic extremism are more often than not Muslims themselves and often quite poor.

          So to introduce any other cause than faith-based belief in the Righteous Cause I think is at best a distraction from the root problem and at worst a way to try to switch responsibility from those who carry out these atrocities to those who do not… usually white men from the West.

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          1. Despite the fact that I am pretty familiar with ColorfulSprinkles’ personal belief-system, I was trying to give OTHER radical Faith-believers some benefit of doubt or precision Tildeb. That’s why I stated:

            Though there are layers under layers of facts, causes and effects, etc… [and]

            One source of many: …

            When sane peoples are doing everything possible to establish a global standard of morality and other virtues onto/into another group of peoples… one can’t very well go in there aggressive, insulting, or words a blazing (so to speak) and expect those less than humane to roll over and change.

            Nevertheless, you made other very good points Tildeb. Thank you Sir. 🙂

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          2. Well, you’re right about the power of what’s true to affect what is believed to be true. Only reality can do that… for most. So I think solutions lie in reality. And reality is brutal.

            Not many people agree with me because what In think is very distasteful a policy to many. But I believe problems should be tackled with a solution firmly in place rather than problems temporarily mitigated and called ‘solutions’. That approach just makes the problem bigger and I think usually far more expensive – especially in lives and suffering – later.

            The way to affect meaningful change in a place like Afghanistan is to change Afghanistan. Systemically. From the ground up. It worked against Imperial Japan. It worked against Nazi Germany. As far as I know, it’s the only method that works: dismantle and dis-empower every national and cultural institution and break tribal affiliations that led the country into a war in the first place and make a wholesale replacement from what was to what is, from the top down. Systemically. This should be the expected path when one goes to war: a complete and utter change to the vanquished by the victor, in this case led by the States. The same is true for Iraq. And as brutal as that sounds, it is brutal to those who try to continue to defend what was or who try to just keep the West bleeding for the illusion of peace.

            But defeat needs to be a reboot, a restart, a new beginning, the phoenix-like ability to rejoin the international arena as an equal for those whose country has been militarily defeated by the West. It is an opportunity for every citizen of that reborn country forced on to the path of rehabilitation and self determination by being subject to the same kind of plan used to invigorate the vanquished after WWII, the same basic governance we have, the same kind of legal system we have, the same kind of institutions, the same access to public education, public health, a public social safety net, the same division of public powers and counter public powers to install checks and balances from within.

            Don’t like the idea? Don’t go to war or this known result will be imposed if vanquished.

            What doesn’t work is this constant bleeding to bring about temporary stability. That way, war is never that big of a deal, and it’s never done… we”ll just send in some ‘peace keepers’ and couple it with ‘foreign aid’ and ‘investment capital’ and ‘economic development’ and pretend something meaningful and lasting has been accomplished (rather than what is true, helping to develop a corrupt proxy doomed to be overthrown eventually and guaranteed to earn the ire of those abandoned to the local bullies and their foreign backers).

            If the West had done that in ’44, we’d still be fighting Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany and Russia would still be bleeding a million soldiers a year to maintain ‘the peace’ rather than seeing through to ’45 the unconditional surrender of those nations that would make war on the West. Too bad we didn’t call China’s bluff in 54 and reunify a democratic Korea rather than demonstrate the path to success for the Vietcong later and making it necessary to prop up a corrupt South Vietnam. Trying to play nice, to be tolerant and respectful of those in power who hold others in such disdain is not a Good Thing… either for us or for those who suffer under these tinpot and totalitarian/religious regimes.

            I think world stability is our business and we should take it very seriously on behalf of the lowly individuals who constitute it.

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          3. An excellent continuation Tildeb. I wholeheartedly agree with all of it. 🙂 But honestly—and I’m speaking in general to anyone—how many people really want to go to that much effort to bring increased peace, tolerance and understanding, and a better life for everyone? Though it is very slowly changing over the centuries according to Harvard Professor Dr. Steven Pinker and others, but it is a long, exhausting process that sometimes goes 1-step forward, then 2-steps backwards, especially when a group of humans think they are self-righteous and the final authority of righteousness.

            A frustrating as all get out ordeal isn’t it!?

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          4. It’s frustrating in that the reason for the betterment of humanity rests very much on Western liberal secular VALUES that are then the ongoing punching bag of those who should know better, values that are demonstrably better at achieving human flourishing than other values assumed by many ‘educated’ people to be equivalent… or even superior. That rubbish is what is being widely taught not just at universities to students who don;t know any better but has now filtered down into secondary and even elementary school, where the very notion of fairly comparing and contrasting these values by affect is deemed to be some kind of discrimination, some kind of colonial holdover, some kind of hate crime because – Lo and Behold! – the evidence is overwhelming and so it must be racist by this taught circular definition. And so way too many people really don’t grasp that Western enlightment values ARE superior in developing human flourishing and deserve higher respect than values that don’t.

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  1. So……what is the solution ? I mean this sincerely. I have always been skeptical of a “Peace Deal” with the Taliban. Though it seems to have worked for the most part with Sinn Fein in Ireland, we are dealing with an entirely different culture here.

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    1. Give them a pocket of land in the northwest, then allow (and financially assist) anyone wanting to settle outside the region. Encourage all women to leave, and leave this medieval brotherhood to exist by itself. Isolated.

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  2. When this happened, I thought the only way this can be carried out is if the attackers can be severed not only from seeing their targets as themselves and/or their loved ones (and then able to act toward the Other as an enemy combatant, as something less than human… hello to the root cause of misogyny and bigotry) but actually contrary to the biological triggers we humans have for a species-wide altruism toward the young of other humans. In other words, these objects to be killed must be of a different kind than the attacker, a threat, and that the attacker has to reclassify him- or herself as a ‘defender’ of something equal or greater in value that is in peril.

    Enter indoctrinated thinking.

    It’s the same tools of indoctrination used for religious acceptance and promotion as we find in totalitarian regimes training enforcement officers – everything from public police officers to executioners to torturers to the secret police. And the only means to do this is by training the brain to detach those neurological pathways of sympathy, empathy, and altruism with the victim/enemy (or one simply cannot commit an act because the brain will not cooperate).

    Also, and as an aside, that’s one suggestion why it seems to be easier for men to be trained to take life and inflict pain and suffering than women: less neurology to overcome!

    It takes a special kind of trust in authority, a willingness to be a tool, an implement of someone else’s ideology, a representative not of one’s self but an agent or proxy for another, an ability to shrug away personal responsibility for one’s actions and become a surrogate, topped off with a depth of belief in the righteousness of one’s cause over and above the real life welfare of one’s target, to carry out what looks to be an irrational, anti-human act of bloodletting against the most vulnerable and framed in the minds of those acting to be seen as heroic.

    And the scariest part of this whole thing is that otherwise normal and nice people steeped in civilized culture and behaviour are able to be trained relatively quickly to do exactly this, to switch away from values and principles and even biology of caring and concern form others, and rationalize becoming monstrous and willing tools of atrocity… and think well of themselves for having this ‘strength’ of character!

    My point is that this atrocity is not insane. It’s perfectly understandable. And it’s a lot closer to home than we might think. Each of us is susceptible.

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    1. Tildeb, from my years of experience in the Psych/A&D field, I do understand your point. Unfortunately, addressing this type of pathology is never a cake walk. Each case is different, but some/many have similar themes, e.g. religious/cult brainwashing.

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  3. Haven’t humans proved over thousands of years that we are not fit mentally and morally to inhabit this beautiful planet we share with so much other life. Be it towards other humans or animals or the environment itself, all we know is kill, hate, judge, destroy, greed and corruption.

    It’s a quest for power and dominance driven by either religion or politics or both. We will die by either our own inhumanity, some really horrific virus, nuclear war or climate change. It’s just a matter of time.

    I know not everyone is like this and in fact most probably are not, at least to some degree. But for some reason we are powerless to address these types of things and it’s so overwhelming that apathy sets in.

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    1. Mary,

      Even the dinosaurs—that is, the bigger, more massive dinosaurs—were made extinct by a enormous meteor hitting Earth off the coast of the Yucatan Peninsula. Yet, Homo sapiens are totally capable of self-imposed extinction. Riddle any highly intelligent being that one, huh!? 😵🙉

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  4. For the first time EVER I am not clicking the “Like” button on this post, Ark! I just can’t do it. That’s the LEAST of my/our worries, huh? 😢 Saying just that is a terrible, shallow understatement.

    The attackers had walked straight past a number of other wards, all closer to the entrance of Kabul’s Dasht-e-Barchi hospital, and made straight for the maternity unit.

    To him, it meant one thing: this was no mistake.

    When your linked article stated that… I couldn’t read any further. The amount of hate that is planted, nurtured, fanned, and unleashed for a psychologically disturbed non-existent God—and everything men have constructed around that self-created God—is beyond disturbing, beyond anything Steven King or Leigh Whannell could imagine and write into depraved movies. This is beyond comprehension and MUST be stopped. Period. No debate.

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    1. It was a pure fluke that I was reading something on Neil Godfreys’s blog and a commentator made a mild allusion to the story. I Googled it out of curiosity. It did my head in.
      At the point you mentioned, my wife walked into the office to ask something and when she saw my face she said: ”What is it?”
      I couldn’t tell her. And still haven’t.

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      1. Yeah, my stomach would’ve been in complete turmoil. Not that I’m proposing pulling the ostrich head in the sand trick/response, but our mind and bodies can take ONLY so much.

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