9/11

Ironic, don’t you think,  how so many people will be praying to their god in remembrance of that fateful day seemingly oblivious that the atrocity was perpetrated by people who worship the very same god.

 

 


58 thoughts on “9/11

      1. Sadly, Beverly simply takes umbrage at my presumption but will not defend her position.

        That’s okay … in the name of her god one or two unsavory things have been done to Muslims.

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      1. You took the proper definition (words) of Abraham’s “God/Yahweh” right out of my head John Z when I read bcparkinson’s erroneous comment. (shakes his fist at JohnZ) DAMN YOU JOHNNY Z!!! 😉 😛

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          1. But God is everywhere in everywhere. So who needs Good Book/s?

            Just get out there in the everywhere, and there, in your hair, is His Holy Lair … God is a nit? Naaaaahhh … but why not? As Poirot says in that movie: “God is everywhere, even in every grain of sand, my child” (Appointment with Death)(boy, does that ol’ bitch lady ever die a most deserved horrible death. Brrrr … exactly as God intended, and knew she would* even before The Creation).

            * So much for ‘Free Will’ … no?

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          2. Yep, and Yeshua bar Yosef (Jesus) or ʿĪsā ibn Maryam is a venerated prophet in Islam equal to Noah, Moses, David, Solomon to Yaḥyā (John the Baptist). Now, if those iconic “prophets” are of God’s Chosen, the God bcparkinson SUPPOSEDLY knows, then the elevator doesn’t reach the top floor. 😉

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          3. And JohnZ, did you notice the MATERNAL lineage connection versus the paternal? 😉 Faux pas BIG TIME!!! Not only in the Quran, but the Greco-Roman gospels make the exact same blunder in Luke.

            I tell ya, these Greco-Roman early Church Fathers and Archbishops who were editing, changing, overhauling the New Testament pre-Canon… didn’t know a LICK of proper Second Temple Judaism/Messianism. Not one bit! But then again…

            That was NEVER the true agenda was it? 😉 😛

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  1. Hello Ark. What bothers me is these people pray to thank their god for saving them from some tragedy but fail to understand he could have stopped it and did not, letting many others die. But they thank it for that? The nasty slave owner whipped many slaves but was praised and thanked by the few he did not lash? Hugs

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    1. Scottie, nothing fails like prayer. Except perhaps the Judeo Christian Muslim God.
      And yes bc… they are the same God with the same biblical roots. Perhaps just as non existent in reality outside of the pages of the bible and koran.

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    2. Sorry, Scottie—not even God is that clever. God the Omnipotent is in fact totally impotent when it comes to creating change. He simply cannot do it …

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  2. In 2001 Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson felt this was God’s punishment for a Sinful America and the Muslim World agreed ! No matter what others say, yes it is the same God. If people would take the time to read how parts of the Old Testament runs parallel with the Quran. It was the Christians who decided to make “Him” a kinder gentler God in their New Testament.

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      1. Top of the Day to you Douglas ! Things are splendid here in Southwest Florida. I hope all is well with you and your family ! I always enjoy your photos ! And Posts ! 🙂

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        1. The date notwithstanding, yes it is a marvelous day. Sun’s a- shining, cakes a-baking and overnight half a large tree toppled over in the garden, narrowly missing the chickens, all my seedlings, and the pecan nut tree!
          Clean up is under way!

          So, yes, lot’s of interesting things going on!

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  3. Be a fascinating world if EVERY god told its followers to fly planes into buildings and kill people en masse in its name on a daily basis. Ah, livin’ on faith alone! What a grand ‘n glorious way to go through life–if ya gots the right faith that is. Well, on the bright side, no one’s ever been called to kill others in the name of the Christian god, right?

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  4. Religion is a handy excuse for almost anything, getting OR giving.
    Maybe that’s why atheism is so appealing to us, and puzzles the religious.
    We seem to be a more physicaly peaceable species.

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  5. Ironic ark?
    Not at all. If you don’t know the difference between fresh peaches and rat poison…………

    The patience and grace of Almighty God (not one of many but One and only) has no bastard children, much as you would like to imagine. Not one Christian can argue with this observation, and not one atheist will agree with it.

    But in your misapplied attempt to standardize all faiths, do tell me WHERE the Lord Jesus Christ commanded me to stone my neighbor because I don’t like his haircut.

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      1. I am sorry you think this. A common fault to assume ALL are equal. Can I say in a soft voice that the Creator of water does not compete with the Creator of blood.

        I have said before that all the gods collectively cannot tie their shoes or count to three- there is ONE God. Period.

        Everything in life testifies to this fact, and scripture of course confirms it, even though there be many wannabe knockoffs.

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          1. I didn’t think there was any possible dispute about that. Many Christians might be startled by the Qu’ran’s teachings about Mary the mother of Jesus. “O Mary! Verily Allah has chosen you and purified you and chosen you above the women of the worlds [3:42]” is about as close as you can get to the Hail Mary. How are you doing, Ark? It’s been a long time.

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          2. It’s been a long time.

            …since rock and roll.”
            so sang Robert Plant.
            I am tootling along just merveilleux, thank you, Jill.

            It is most odd that Christians are vehement their god is the One and Only – Accept No Substitutes not quite like the god of the Jews and or more pointedly, not like the Muslims at all.
            And yet …Yahweh by any other name is still Yahweh.
            I mean, Yeshua ben Josef is still Jesus of Nazareth …. apparently.
            Anyone would think we were suggesting their god was Hannuman for …er … gods’ sake.

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        1. John, and so the ot tells us. The shema “hear oh Israel, the Lord thy God is one”. Sounds very familiar… “God is one and Mohammed is his prophet”. But what we never realized and never accepted before we deconverted is that the nt divided that One God of the ot into three by a dizzying flurry of theological and philosophical twists and turns, making Jesus the incarnate uncreated and coeternal God with the One God of the ot… And for kickers, inexplicably and without questionability also made the HS a separate but coequal God as well.
          The Trinity is a lie against the One God of the ot.
          Maybe it’s true that muslims and Jews serve a very different God than do Christians. But I suspect that the God of Israel, Islam and Christianity is the same, just transmutted to fit the religious narrative of the moment.
          Too bad the moment has lasted 2000yrs with Jesus and 1300 yrs for mohammedism

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          1. Not for your sake mike but for others.

            Just ask yourselves: does the demolishing of buildings and people by planes more resemble the actions of the gracious Paul the apostle, or the beheading bastards inspired by Moo-slims? Be honest with yourself for once in your life.

            And where pray tell did Paul get his marching orders from if not from the ONLY God of heaven and earth.

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          2. Does the vile antisemitic rhetoric of Martin Luther and the genocidal pogroms by God’s Proper People(sic) to eradicate the Jews in Days of Yore pass muster?
            Seems that is a resounding Yes! as I do not recall any Christian damning one of your most notable heroes of old.

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          3. Ah yes the old diversionary tactic. Well might you toss out a truckload of ripe apples because one has worms. And that is not Wurms.

            Scripture stands unimpeached. People? Eh, not so much.

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          4. Ah yes the old whine about ”Christians aren’t like this any more” tactic.
            Maybe if Luther had been stopped in his tracks and more Christians were honest enough to speak out … but then, honesty has never been part of the Christian bedrock has it?
            But hey, that’s all in the past, right?
            We don’t really think the Jews are Christi Killers anymore now do we?
            Hmmmm …..

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          5. Whining? Not here. Seems you have an issue with the acts of men. Read my comment to mike again.

            Scripture stands correct in every way.

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          6. Seems you have an issue with accepting fact.
            Putting your hands over your eyes and crying: You can’t see me!” might have worked when you were 3 years old.
            The world has had enough of Liars for God, thank you.

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          7. Love seeing you accuse others of diversionary tactics when you are the master and really just cherry picking data to support your arguments, or just completely talking nonsense that has nothing to do with the arguments being made towards you. Literally the only line of defense you have is to completely ignore arguments that contradict what you believe.

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          8. It’s really no good arguing with CS, swarn. John is impervious to reason and logic. He will defend the bible and Christianity as the cost of his honesty and integrity. I am of those who found that we couldn’t.

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          9. Oh I know…I just sometimes like to troll him…he usually presents some very comical responses and I have encouraged him many times to take his comedy act on the road. 🙂

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          10. John, take a trip thru history sometime. When the church had the “freedom” and the ability to, she did some horrible and evil things. The reason we don’t see it now is that they no longer have that freedom. Islam just doesn’t care about the optics and consequences. You might say they have more consistency in the practice of their Faith than Christians do today. But given the chance… Who knows

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    1. So God was married to Miriam when He pumped her up? I didn’t know that. But of course—if He weren’t (all three of Him) then His holy infant (so tender and mild) would indeed be a bastard …

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  6. … the very same god.

    Oops. Big mistake.

    Remember that Larycia Hawkins lost her job at Wheaton College for saying that they are the same god.

    They used to be the same god, until it was decided that they were not the same god. And the determination that they were the same god was probably based on the bible, just like the determination that they were not the same god.

    The bible is an interesting book. It can say whatever you want it to say. You just have to be clever about what you read into it.

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  7. There are no gods period. Man’s pitiful excuse to wage war and hate and death…in the name of. So infantile to keep believing in these absurdities.
    Scottie’s cartoon says all that is necessary. The arrogance of these people!

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    1. I agree, Mary — there are no gods period. The killings of 9/11, as well as the many other atrocities carried out against humans, is done by HUMANS … without any prodding by supernatural beings (good or bad). This is not to say humans will try to BLAME other sources, but this doesn’t change anything.

      And CS … Christians that believe in the flowery phrases of the bible that you like to babble on about are not exempt.

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    2. Mary:
      not so much an excuse to wage war, but an exercise in milking the gullible. (The wars come in when the milk-herders are squabbling over territory …)

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  8. I would like to explain what is complete nuttery.
    I believe the adult theists of any faith have absolutely no excuse for being led by the nose into what is believed to be the supernatural world of Gods and demons and to do so is demonstrating the mindset of gullible sheep. Please can anyone tell me how can any balanced rational person find any logic or anything sensible from an impossibility such as a superman type creator of the universe who uses magic or the child like Adam and Eve story, the scary stories of the dead rising from graves and the heaven and hell afterlife concept?

    These theistic people have neither the will power or the ability to motivate themselves to investigate what are without doubt the most impossible events and the most totally ridiculous claims ever unloaded upon the human race.

    If these people of any god were to understand not just the history of religious beliefs and the lack of evidence for any god ever existing, the facts about scientific reality and the absolute power of the brain and most importantly how indoctrination has shaped their brain and how it takes over a person’s life, and then maybe they could have a chance of snapping out of their delusional world.

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  9. I like to look at facts and try to fit the impossible ones into extant theories, without contradictions or inventing some more convenient explanations.

    I keep harping on the fact that at Baalbeck in Lebanon we have the fact that the Temple of Jupiter exists as a physical artefact, and the fact that no-one alive today can replicate it. Can’t be done … not without invention, such as some bugger inventing a new god and putting the blame on Him. Or modernising newer gods, delivering them in a new more modern (it means credible, acceptable) format as Space Aliens (which means the same anyway, no?).

    And much that was un-understandable in the past became the work of ‘gods’ (or God). Our sciences moved on and with every step more and more gods got demoted … but still some diehards refuse to accept the Big Bang but believe implicitly that God dunnit (Creation). I’ve said before without challenge that ‘God’ and the ‘Big bang’ are simply two different names for the same event. (For myself I cannot accept either—despite the best minds patiently explaining I prefer the time-honoured ‘Steady State’ universe. No beginning, true, but no end either, and to me it’s ever so much neater.

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  10. Yes, Allâh is just the Arabic-language name for the same (imaginary) Judeo-Christian-Islamic God, just as the name is “Dieu” in French and “Bog” in Russian and “Khodâ” in Persian and so on. “Allâh” is used by Arabic-speaking Christians. I have Christian literature written in Arabic, including an Arabic translation of the Bible, and “Allâh is always used as the name of the Christian God.

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    1. Thank you, Infi.
      These fundamental Christians oft times display their ignorance as if it were a Badge of Honour.
      ”I may be thicker than Lard, but my god, who is called God, loves Me. ”

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