”I support Brexit….”, and according to some, so does Jesus’ dad, apparently.

Excellent summary, David. It is extraordinary how so many supposedly intelligent politicians have completely lost their senses. *I support Brexit and I think that it is actually part of God’s plan for our future. What has struck us in our prayer group is the Verse from Deuteronomy 28:28 – “The Lord will (has!) afflict you with madness, blindness and confusion of mind.” There is no other way satisfactorily to explain the lunacy in parliament. We must continue to pray (hard) that Boris Johnson will succeed!

*my bold

This is the funniest thing I have read in ages.
As if Yahweh could give a monkey’s uncle about the UK.
”God’s plan!”
Really?
How arrogant and self-centered can you get?
And let’s face it, based on his …. sorry, His track record, Yahweh’s plan would far more likely be along the lines of this:

”Right …. that’s it. You lot are f*****! I’ve had just about enough of this crap. I created this place. I allow you lot to live here rent free and all you do is screw it up! You didn’t learn when I flooded the place. Then you killed my kid, and now you cite me … sorry Me, and think I am somehow responsible for all the shite you are causing? That it’s part of My plan? Oh really? I don’t chuffing think so!
I’ll be there next Friday and you lot better be gone. Here’s an eviction notice. Now piss off!  Am I making myself perfectly clear? ‘

Gotta love them Christians.

Well,  not those Christians that don’t support Brexit, obviously , as we all know they’re not proper Christians but  a bunch of heretical Nobs.

Seriously, you can’t make this stuff up.

Ark


65 thoughts on “”I support Brexit….”, and according to some, so does Jesus’ dad, apparently.

  1. The thing that makes me curious about the brexit thing is… didnt they have a public referendum? Like two yrs ago? Now theyre working to undo the vote of the people? Total crap.

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    1. It’s only democracy if the vote goes the way of those who called for it.
      I think it all went for a ball for chalk when they allowed women to vote in 19 wheveritwas.
      Seriously? I wonder who thought THAT would be a good idea? Now look at the bloody mess the place is in?

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      1. We in the US have a had our own type of that “democracy”. It’s been two yrs of people trying to overturn the results of an election, and very little actually being accomplished ‘together’ for the American people

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        1. Brexit won the popular vote and so really does represent the will of the people. Trump lost the popular vote, and would have lost it by an even bigger margin were it not for the racist vote-suppression laws in several of our states.

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          1. The United States was founded as a constitutional republic, and the Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution (i.e. the supreme law of the land) stipulates that the president be selected by the electoral college, not the popular vote.

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          2. the Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution (i.e. the supreme law of the land) stipulates that the president be selected by the electoral college

            Obviously I know that. In this case the law of the land is unjust and has thwarted the will of the voters more than once. Apartheid used to be the law of the land in South Africa too. My point was that Brexit represents the will of the British people because it got a majority of the vote. The 2016 election did not reflect the will of the American people because the popular vote was overriden by the Electoral College.

            Every other democracy in the world, whether it uses the term “republic” or not, accepts the principle that the candidate who gets the most votes wins the election. The distinction between a constitutional republic and a pure democracy normally means that there are some limits on the power the winning majority is able to wield over the losing minority, not some goofball set-up whereby the side that actually lost the election gets to “win”. It’s a massive failure of the American system.

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          3. The crucial difference between a constitutional republic and a direct democracy is that the former prescribes the powers and limitations of elected representatives (which the founders intended) while the latter grants carte blanche to mob rule (which the founders abhorred).

            Moreover, it’s critical to understand how we got here and why things are the way they are prior to making any drastic changes. The role of the federal government is to represent the interests of the states, so the issue of fairness wrestled with during the constitutional convention pertained to granting each state an equal voice within the union. And the outcome of those negotiations was a compromise that incorporated a series of checks and balances intended to thwart any single interest or faction from usurping authority over the whole: the House of Representatives grants proportional representation based on population, the Senate grants equal representation to each state, the Electoral College selects the president, the president nominates the federal judges (including Supreme Court justices) and the Senate confirms them.

            And I submit that the US system of selecting the president is far more democratic than the parliamentary democracies (UK, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, etc.) in which the leader is chosen by the elected representatives holding the majority of seats within the legislature.

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      1. Not the same and you know it. The 2016 vote was the vote of the people to leave a eu that is a very different animal than what they agreed to join. Is the government proposing another referendum? No… they’re using delay tactics and outright ignoring the vote of the people to try to Stay when the people said Leave. Not the same at all and you know it.

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          1. But the government isn’t voting now… the people aren’t voting.. rrheyre just trying to find ways NOT to do what the people voted for in 2016. Not the same and you know it

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          2. So, opinion has changed now the lies behind brexit are being exposed.

            Plus, the referendum was never legally binding anyway.

            There is good reason to halt it.

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          3. Then have a new vote, or a new referendum. Or just do what the people told them in 2016. Referendum of the people never legally binding? Amazing, and they call that democracy. When governments ask the people they serve what they want, then the government does what it wants anyway… that is not democracy. It’s a sham tyranny. And you’re in the position of defending a government ignoring and trying to subvert what the people told them to do.

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          4. The people didn’t tell them what to do. The referendum was asking Amazon opinion.

            But let’s say the people did say to leave.

            What sort of leave did they mean? How many actually wanted a no deal leave?

            As for doing what three people asked, they asked for parliament not to be closed, they are on the streets asking the government to not force a no deal.

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          5. You’re sounding like a Christian apologist. Or a certain American president who wanted to parse the meaning of the word “is”. And yes, the people voted to Leave. The government that serves the people need to do what the people voted for. Once they do what the people told them, then they can work on trade agreements. If you hold the Leave hostage to what might or might not happen, you are only trying to justify not doing what the people told their government to do. You’re justifying the subversion of the people’s vote in referendum that the government themselves called for.

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          6. Errr, Boris is currently holding the country hostage and preventing democracy.

            Will you join the voices condemning him?

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          7. My 7nderstanding is that the duly elected prime minister is trying to execute the Will of the people in their vote to Leave in 2016. If I were British and in the uk… I would stand with him

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          8. Keep on spinning buddy. The original referendum didn’t stipulate with or without a “deal”. It asked Leave or Stay. The people voted Leave. The government is responsible to do the Will of the people. Leave. Work out the details of what happens next after you’ve done what the original referendum results said. The prime minister is trying to force the government to do what the people have told them to do. He’s doing his job.

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          9. Exactly, it was a flawed referendum and the voting public were poorly informed.

            Now that’s it’s obvious what a sticking pile of shit the whole thing is, public opinion has changed.

            Bojos job is to listen and be democratic. He’s doing neither.

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  2. Thanks for the laughter – we certainly need it in this mad Johnson led country. It frightens the s*** out of us, how he has prorogued Parliament, refuses all interviews or scrutiny and is simply doing what he wants. In the Guardian this morning, the phrase ‘elective dictatorship’ is used and that is what it feels like.
    But, of course, it’s God’s plan so what do I, a mere mortal and a female one at that, know about anything?!

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    1. I had never heard of the term” parorgued” before yesterday and had to look it up.
      Apparently, the etymology of the word stems from an ancient form of proctology.
      Who knew, right?
      Good old Boris. He’s the man!!!
      Come a long way since sorting out the bendy buses in London.

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    2. This can only mean that either The Guardian reads me, or … I’m right. Especially in more eyes than just my own. In many of my posts I’ve humbly (snort~!) mentioned that democracy means that “we get to democratically elect our absolute dictators for the next period”.

      (Sudden thought: next regnum?) (naaaaahhh ….)

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  3. I love how they take a conversation between a Middle Eastern god and “His chosen people” and claim it refers to their situation there and now. And, the Brexit vote was skewed by foreign money (mostly US, surprise, surprise and it came down very, very close. I don’t think a 50+% v. 50-% referendum states the will of the people, especially when the terms of the exit were not specified. I suggest that most people thought that their politicians would roll up their sleeves and make the thing work. That they have not done so is now patently obvious and that the scenario they are faced with is untenable. Millions of people freely entered into GB when it was in the EU and now they will have to be kicked out or otherwise processes and the problem of Northern Ireland’s border with Ireland is fraught with danger.

    What a cock up. And the fact that this idiot is resorting to prayer shows you just how stupid the actions taken so far have been.

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  4. Funny post Ark, the guy’s a twat.
    Not wanting to get too political as brexit is really devisive but a few points worth bearing in mind. When the ‘common market’ started in 57 it was a good idea, free trade. Britain tried to join and a certain French leader (who spent the war years safely tucked up in the UK) kept saying “NON”. When we finally got membership things started to go downhill. Common market became the EEC and now the EU. The aim to form a federal Europe, no borders, same money, a single army and led by un-elected bureaucrats in Brussels. Rightly or wrongly we paid much more into the system than most others and got little back. As an example our road network is a crumbling joke, in Spain they are building un-used motorways for fun!
    The people of the UK were offered a referendum vote on whether to remain or leave the EU in 2016. There was nothing on the ballot paper as to leaving with or without a deal. The majority of those who voted voted leave 52%, 72.2% of the electorate voted so it can be assumed 27.8% couldn’t give a toss either way! Those who voted remain cried foul and want another referendum. Parliament voted by a majority of 384 to invoke article 50 (leave the EU). A deal was arranged by the previous Tory leader, three times this deal was rejected by parliament. Now those who rejected that deal are up in arms saying we can’t leave without a deal and it’s un-democratic. What is more un-democratic than going against the result of the referendum? I just wish they would get on with it. This country is in a mess and for the foreseeable future there is no one party that can unite the people. It has gone on too long and is causing huge bitterness.
    Sorry to bang on for so long but sometimes people forget the facts.

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    1. I blame it all on Ted Heath. He should have stuck to sailing.
      The UK should use it’s money for more productive things, such as chasing Maradonna fans off of islands full of sheep.
      Nothing like the sight of a Vulcan Bomber flying over the South Atlantic or the QEII laden with troops to put a bit of backbone in the nation.
      Puts us all in good stead when we send the troops off to go chasing around the dessert looking for WMDs.
      God Save the Queen and all that.
      I am of course referring to Brian May and Freddie Mercury as I’m sure you know?
      As James May once noted: ”The French are nothing but a bunch of lamb burning Communists!”

      😉

      You should suggest to your firm to stock Boris Johnson wigs – you’d make a bloody fortune!

      Oh, well, fear not my favorite Norwich Fan – Just wave your copy of your KJV. God will look after his own, doncha know?

      Pee Ess. I have Pukki in my EPL fantasy team and he is creaming points for me.
      I wouldn’t have even given him a second look if I didn’t know this bloke who supports the Canaries.
      😉

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      1. Hmmmm not having a dig are we Ark? As I said this is very devisive. A lot of people have a lot of views on the brexit mess. If Cameron had not been so arrogant as to think he would win a remain vote in the referendum, then do a runner when he lost, none of this would be happening.
        The Falklands war was a very sad time, a lot of people lost their lives and sadly many of those by missiles supplied by an un-named European ‘partner’. No cause for celebration or national pride ditto the Gulf, Blair will never be forgiven for that!
        Unless they are edible I think the supermarket I stack shelves in, for a little more than the minimum wage, won’t be interested in Boris wigs.
        Got no bible kjv or other in my house to wave or whatever, I most certainly ain’t one of god’s own.
        My kid has gone to live in Germany so I hope everything works out well in the end.
        And I guess if (big if) we do leave the EU Pukki and 75% of the Norwich squad and manager will have to be kicked out of the country, bloody Johnny foreigners!

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        1. Yes, I was still working in the UK during the Falklands.
          All that ”patriotism” kept Mrs. T in power.
          I had a couple of Argentine clients and it was very awkward for those women.

          Blair was an absolute Nob. And then he converted to Catholicism to show how sincere of a Nob he was.
          As Terry Pratchett was wont to say: Follow the money.

          Your daughter will be fine.

          You should sign up and do the EPL fantasy league, it’d be a bit of fun for a season.

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    2. People keep talking about leaving without a deal as if that’s an “end” or a possible solution. It’s neither. Some form of trade agreement *must* be reached, because unless the UK plans to go the route of the USSR or military dictatorship era Brazil and block imports/exports, there have to be agreed terms regulating those exchanges.
      .

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      1. Pink. If no agreement or ‘deal’ can be reached with the EU and approved by parliament by Oct 31st then the default position is that the UK leaves the EU and automatically trades under WTO rules. It is then up to the government to seek trade deals with the EU as it would with any other country in the world. Whether trade deals can be struck that are of mutual benefit only time will tell. To go the route of the ‘former’ USSR is frankly absurd, in fact some suggest that the EU expansion plans and aim to be the ‘United States of Europe’ is not dissimilar to that the USSR pursued in the past (minus the tanks of course).

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        1. All that means is there’s no deal on Oct. 31st, leaving the UK in a dire position. There’s no sector of business that’s good for. The major auction houses which I work with are already feeling the pain and re-routing sales to other countries. WTO rules only cover certain types of tariff, they don’t cover regulations. And of course all the reciprocal exemptions disappear. I’ve rarely seen such an appalling situation where people who know nothing about international trade are talking about it as if it’s simple and they’re experts.

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          1. I understand your concerns, indeed they are echoed right across our country. However a referendum was held and (in my view) the result MUST be honoured. There has been three years to sort out an agreement with the EU, even the one May finished with does not include a trade agreement, only in the non legally binding part two was there provision for a two year period to sort one out. It has to be said that the EU would never give the UK a trade deal like the one in place now. Why? as a deterrent to any other countries who felt they would be better off outside the ‘union’.
            I am far from being an expert on these matters, I do take a great interest though, after all this is our future. as for the WTO if you have a bit of spare time this explains the position https://ukandeu.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/What-would-trading-on-WTO-terms-mean-Long-Guide.pdf

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          2. Let me explain to you what WTO terms would mean in practice in my market. I’m an expert, not by choice, but because it’s part of my job as an art specialist and broker.
            First let me explain that London is home to between 20 and 25% of the fine arts market worldwide – compared to Paris, for example which handles only 4% of worldwide sales. That’s because London acts as the major European hub. That means sellers and buyers in Madrid, or in Vienna, or in Rome know that from the convenience of their homes they can sell or buy without ever having to fill out a single document or pay a single extra fee. The moment the UK leaves without a deal, that’s over. WTO terms are essentially irrelevant because each EU country has the right to set (and all have already set) their own individual rules, regulations and tariffs on imports from outside the EU. So a buyer in Madrid, for example, will have to pay the established Spanish rate of approx. 30% on top of the item price in import fees/taxes if they want to buy from the UK. A buyer in Norway will have to add 20% VAT to the item price and get an import license from their own government to be able to bring in an item. A buyer in Sweden will be able to buy a wood item of over 100 years with no tax, but will have to pay both VAT and import duties for certain other classes of items. A seller in France is going to have to get an export or selling license to move an item into the UK for sale. For an item over 100 years old, a seller in Spain will also need to get a special license including a certificate from a specialist. So saying WTO terms as if that’s something simple that “resolves” trade is preposterous and repeated by people who don’t actually understand the intricacies of markets.
            All these extra complications and costs have a huge impact on trade. We already know that there’s a direct negative correlation in sales wherever sales take more time to complete (whatever the reason, forms, shipping time, customs etc.)
            So is there a proposition to resolve any of these actual problems or are people going to keep repeating things like WTO terms as it were a solution?

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          3. You’re going to need a really, really, really, really good PA… who has a degree in international law… and who’s worked in logistics for the last 15 years…

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          4. I’ve already made the move. Remember when I mentioned a while ago I was setting up a French company for art sales? I’m now waiting to see how things develop in this whole new world.

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          5. Unfortunately if (and I still would not rule a last minute u-turn) the UK leaves the EU on Oct 31st then the terms of the WTO come into force like it or not.
            I will repeat that the majority of those who bothered to vote voted to leave. The government has had three years to get things sorted. On this they have failed spectacularly mainly in part that they initially thought a trade deal would be a given. After all the EU has more to lose than the UK. Figures for 2018 show the UK exports to the EU as £289 billion and imports as £345 billion. However the EU was/is determined to make sure that the UK is not going to leave and carry on as normal. As I have said this is in part to deter other countries in the ‘union’ from following suit.
            The UK government MUST honour the result of the referendum to not do so would make a mockery of democracy. And whilst I feel sorry for you that things are going to get difficult in your trade you must also realise that everyone will be affected. My kid who has just gone to live in Germany, will she be allowed to stay? Will my job be safe if my supermarket can not get enough supplies? Will we all be allowed to travel around Europe?
            And before anyone says “you should have thought of the consequences” I and I believe the majority of those who voted leave did. In my opinion the option of remaining a member of the ‘Federal United States of Europe’ is quite un-palatable.

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          6. So you didn’t understand a word I said about how WTO rules don’t affect regulations or already established tariffs? You see, that’s an enormous part of the problem with these discussions. People who give simplistic one line answers and don’t understand the actual real life implications of trade barriers.
            Which part do you find confusing about each country already having their own internal tariffs set? The WTO has no power over pre-existing taxation.
            All you’ve done is repeat propaganda lines which have been repeated time and again by people like Rees-Mogg and Farage, but which have no actual evidence to back them up.

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          7. Thanks for your information and I understood exactly what you said.
            You can see from this dialogue exactly how this country has become so divided with so much bitterness and resentment even effecting families (mine included).
            Everybody is claiming to be ‘experts’. None of this was necessary had Cameron not called a referendum thinking it was a foregone conclusion he would get a remain vote. He didn’t and now we have to live with the consequences.
            What the future now holds is anyone’s guess but whatever the outcome the UK is not going to be a happy place to live.
            I don’t think it’s fair to carry on using Ark’s blog to discuss personal differences, I only made the initial comments as I feel there are people around the world who were not fully aware of what brexit means. The post Ark put up was of course to mock the idea god is supporting brexit however some would see it that others who voted leave share this view.
            Again thanks for your comments and I hope that everything turns out fine for your business as I hope it does for country but I’m not holding my breath!

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          8. With all due respect, if you understood the regulatory and tax implications I explained in regard to the import of art by individual countries, why did you propose WTO rules as a solution? When I gave those examples it wasn’t in hope of seeming to be an expert, but because I actually export art regularly so instead of being a hypothetical, I can show people what sort of real problems we deal with every day depending on what sort of deal is (or isn’t) in place with the destination country.

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  5. Back in the day, Heaven and Hell were one place called Heav’ellia Land. Then, the citizens of Heaven held a vote to keep Heaven separate from Hell. This was called Heaven-exit. So, in His great glory, and as ruler of Heaven, God separated it from Hell, and Hell got its own ruler, a guy named Jimmy, who eventually lost the job to Lucifer, but that’s a tale for another day. This is clearly written about in the Bible somewhere. I simply know it is. So, as is clear to see, God LOVES things like Brexit, and, thus, by proxy, so do Christians. I hope this clears things up for you. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m off to email America’s hero, Vladimir Putin, and thank him for the outstanding job he’s doing in the US Senate and with the US Presidency. One day, I truly hope we can all be under a new, proud Soviet flag, and we can forever put an end to silly things like Brexit. With Vlad’s help, I know we can do it! Thank you, and have a pleasant day. $Amen$

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  6. I’m seriously thinking of moving to SouthEast Asia. Georgetown, Penang, in Malaysia looked nice when we went. (Banging my head on the computer right now) 1291820’3ncnasdjqw92398293rehfjsdjcjsalafifue348r()&/&%&%%

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  7. Sorry, Ark … you completely missed the point.

    It actually IS all part of God’s plan~

    (Do I have to explain it all again—no, not for you, Ol’ Buddy; for the myriads out there who have no idea that as God is

    (a) omniscient, and
    (b) omnipresent and
    (c) omnipotent …

    then everything that ever happened anywhere and anywhen (past-present-future) … is INDEED all God’s doings.

    Slavishly following our prescribed/pre-purposed/preordained tracks (as we have no option but to do) the blame must lay fairly at the feet of The Great Architect of the Universe.

    No? Perhaps I can please borrow some of your indignant Christians for debate? (Very few ever take me up on my own blog).

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