A little light-hearted comedy …. one for John Z perhaps?

I am not ‘unaware’ Ark….unlike you I have actually studied this and there is evidence for the Exodus. The trouble is that you start with the basic presupposition – it did not happen – and therefore you dismiss anyone who says it does as being unreliable….your posts are endlessly circular…

Should the Nobel Board be alerted to expect some ground-breaking evidence that has eluded almost the entire archaeological fraternity for decades?

Maybe we will soon be alerted to the discovery of Noah’s ark in the not too distant future as well?

 

Ark.

 


62 thoughts on “A little light-hearted comedy …. one for John Z perhaps?

  1. I presume the evidentiary standard is the same one as is used for proof of miracles. This issue is basically closed in archaeological circles (if what I read from them is correct) but not closed according to preachers in the pulpits and apologists. We can trust them to tell the truth, no?

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  2. The exodus may not be true, but here’s something that is and was just recently discovered: Jesus’ poop in his empty tomb. Yep. This has been confirmed by numerous internet scholars, including me, a self-awarded Nobel Prize winner. Jesus’ fossilized poop was found in the very empty tomb that is mentioned in the bible. I actually have a piece or two; so, if you’d like some, please send me a self-addressed stamped envelope, along with a money order for 200.00 America dollars, and I’ll send you some. Remember, no TrueChristian home is complete without a verified piece of Christ’s fossilized poop. $Amen$

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  3. Hello Ark. Why is it so important to this guy there be evidence / proof that the Exodus when there is no evidence / proof for his god? In our group of bloggers it is often remarked that the lack of proof is necessary to maintain the fiction. Jim I think is the one I first heard say that. I think just taking the story on faith without worry about the facts of it would strengthen his connection to his deity. Evidence would only lead to more questions that would need more fake answers. It’s a vicious circle and the lies end up tripping over each other. That is what gets Ken Ham in trouble. HUgs

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    1. The problem is that people like Robertson refuse to deal with the fact there is evidence – evidence of an internal settlement in Canaan.
      But time after time up pops another fundy with another hypothesis.
      Robertson is a disingenuous fool who considers that no matter whether he is wrong or right, it has to be better than an atheist.

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      1. Ark:

        “Robertson is a disingenuous fool who considers that no matter whether he is wrong or right, it has to be better than an atheist”

        I imagine he makes a damn’ good buck out of it, no? A fool? Really?

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      1. Hello Argus. If you look at the stats for his big “ark blunder” it is bleeding money. Which the state of Kentucky has to pay for in different ways. BTW would you guys take him back…Please! Hugs

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  4. What they can’t support with evidence, what they can’t refute with fact, they obliterate with personal insults and adhom attacks

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    1. Robertson is a classic case.
      I have been interacting with another called Joel Anderson.
      Same story.
      And immediately they think they are losing ground they moderate or ban you.

      Gary is still at it with Anderson.

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      1. they think they are losing ground — Of course it’s because they are. There’s only so much “reference” material they can offer and all of it is centered in the bible. The thing they refuse to face/accept is the “facts and information” they offer is thousands of years old and has been refuted many times over by modern studies.

        But … oh well.

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        1. Hello Nan. That is a great point. Why do these otherwise smart people who live in modern societies using the benefits of current scientific understandings in everything from food safety / medicine /electronics seem to idolize and wish to live by a system thousands of years old? When you look at it that way it is nuts! Not a one would volunteer to go back to those places in the years 4 BC to 33 AD and spend the rest of their lives, so why wish to emulate them in either morals or understanding of reality? Hugs

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          1. SCOTTIE:

            it makes me wish I had Christlike powers and could send ’em back to live with Jesus … and when time eventually catches us back up and they are reborn as themselves, they remember trotting about with JC and how wonderful it all was … and can re-evaluate going back again.

            Would they? I has me doubts.

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          2. Hello Argus. If people could somehow live then and then now , they would disavow all that crap. Toilet paper? Wet wipes? Much better than leaves and one’s fingers! Sorry to everyone reading but we have to be blunt. The theist think the pinnacle of science and society was 2000 years ago. Let them deal with it, with hemroids, with any manner of curable diseases we have today. To tell the truth, the toughest of them would freak out and cry if they were to be in 0001 AD. Hugs

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          3. The Vikings were many centuries after the Christ-alongs … and analysis of their poops (yep, still being evacua— excavated) tells that they were nonchalantly accustomed to vast amounts more horrible gut critturs than we are today. I imagine the Christ-alongs in their lovely (?) benign climate were even more so.

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        2. It must be difficult to believe in something that has no visible proof, pictures, artwork or footprints. that may be why kids let go of Santa and the Tooth Fairy at such a young age; the only proof is in that bit of coin under the pillow, and presents under the tree that say “from santa” with handwriting that looks suspiciously like your mother’s.

          Once the visible ‘proof’ wanes, so does the belief.

          And yet we need to believe in something, and if we aren’t something enough to believe in, we look upwards instead of inwards. Churches are marvelous psychologists, and they’ve known for millenia how to keep the glow going: give ’em something to work toward, something to work FOR (fasting, penances, sins to overcome, prayer). No matter what religion, sacrifice and sin and a chance of redemption are the biggest draws. Man often has a tough time believing in himself, and religion gives him a direction. Carrot on a stick time.

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          1. I now believe in the Ark. I’ve seen pictures of the life-size authentic replica, re-created from the original blueprints (okay, it look a wee tiny bit different from the model I also saw recently—but hey, different strokes etc etc?)

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          2. JUDY:

            My direction came from throwing away the carrot, and the stick, and thinking for myself. Once I was big enough, strong enough, and (dammit) ruthless enough to defend myself it made a huuuuuge difference~!

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        3. Faith beats facts any time!

          “Captain, Ma’am?”
          “Yo, Dude?”
          “Ma’am … we hit an iceberg and we’re going down by the bows. We’re sinking!”
          “Have faith in God, dolt! She will provi— glug glug glug Jesus bloody Christ, this water’s bloody cold—”
          “Shall I break out the life-rafts, Ma’M? Ooops … sorry, I forgot … you got rid of ’em ‘cos God would see us right—”
          “Have the band crank up with ‘Nearer, My God, To Thee’; I’m told it worked for those heathens on the Titanic … glug glug glug gurgle bloop … “

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          1. All the bits and pieces coalesced for me when I was messing about with I Ching, and meditating a bit, and suddenly I realized that this was what prayer was about, but it focused on the inner stuff, rather than the upward-looking prayers to an almighty ghost.
            The answers to anything were already there, all i had to do was find them. No guilt, no penances, no Hail Marys or that poor man on the cross…

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    1. Do any of them , John?
      He is not likely going to either – and subsequent comments have not been released – because all he has are the prime suspects, Hoffmeier, Woods, Kitchen.
      I’ve had another I’m-not-a-fundy ….honestly recently tell me that the Exodus is highly plausible and the trouble with you atheists is you don’t research and the numbers were misunderstood because of the word ”elph”!
      Like this would be … THE thing we would have completely overlooked. Oops… okay then it DID happen.

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      1. UnkleE and Brandon did at least try. Wasn’t that where we first heard of Kitchen and Hoffmeier?

        Ah yes, the numbers are wrong! And the date’s wrong! And the places are wrong! But apart from that, it’s all true!!!

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        1. I can’t remember UnkeE’s take on this.
          Once they start to question the bible tale they open the doors to reality. And this is where the problems – for them – start.

          Robertson is an angry, ego driven individual trying desperately to cling to something he knows is not real.
          As you said to Mel – it is a pantomime.

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          1. Wow! Haven’t thought about unkleE for ages! And just now tried reaching his blog … gone! Did something happen that I’m not aware of?

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          2. He is another Evangelical that does not like their views challenged, and refuses to provide evidence for his arrogant and oft times outlandish claims.

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          3. Ahhhh … so he’s still beating (around) the bush, I see. Thanks for the link (although I have no intentions of bookmarking it 😛). Do you still pay him visits?

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          4. It’s a pantomime … hah!

            For many it’s a living, and for the some whom God favours more better it’s free luxury limousines and jets. (Surely they won’t go to Heaven unless they sell the window’s mite and pass it through the eye or a camel?)
            (But where do they find mitey widows these days?)(Taxman gets his share too, ya know—if there’s any left after God’s man …)

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  5. “…unlike you, I have actually studied this and there is evidence for the Exodus.”

    BWAHAHAHAHA! Yeah, the Pea Brain has done the archaeological hard yards on this, digging up Iron and Bronze Age sherds, excavating the ruins of Biblical settlements, etc.
    Genuine scholars and archaeologists like Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman would laugh in Robertson’s face.

    We only have to look to comparatively recent history, like the Armenian genocide, to see how patently ridiculous the idea of hundreds of thousands of people — including pregnant women, the elderly, and young children — faring well under extreme, punishing desert conditions, can be. No miracles such as manna from Heaven for the Armenians. They died like flies as they were marched through the Syrian desert. Why? Weren’t they Christian enough for God to save them? Or was God on the Ottoman Turks’ side?

    I pose these questions merely rhetorically, because Robertson won’t let any of them through to his pathetic excuse for a website.

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          1. We have lots of sun – wall to wall blue but my house is south facing and I’m in the kitchen and it’s bloody cold, even with the oven on.
            I think I shall grab a coffee, pop outside and find a warm sunny spot for five minutes .

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          2. oh, i keep forgetting, you’re the mirror image of our climate. We’re just heading into summer, one downpour at a time. Damn it goes fast, doesn’t it.

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      1. It’s fascinating the way you phrased this. I was never a biblical literalist, and none of your posts turned me away from biblical literalism. I recall banning you because you were disrespectful to fellow readers in the comments and spammed often.

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        1. It was a post on your own blog that started the rot. It may have been to do with Exodus and if so this is what I was referring to as biblical literalism. It was a while back so I can’t recall all the detail,s and have no desire to trawl your blog looking for the post and the comments.,
          However it was a few posts after you made a statement that your view had changed.
          I recall one of the commenters saying it was a shame I had been banned.

          I never spam, I merely comment on what I see as religious nonsense.
          And you never offered a single evidence based reply to any comment I made.

          But surely you should be in 7th Heaven James? After all, you must know you are on the right track when you are being ”persecuted” by the nasty atheist. It says so in the bible.
          Out of curiosity, are you still a fundamentalist?
          And why don’t you rescind the ban?
          Are you still afraid of evidence?

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