Bang on the money – Christianity’s abject failure.

I’m sure Steve won’t mind if I make a post of his very astute comment.
The fact that theists do not have any extra benefits in the real natural world delivered to them by the supernatural world has been proven and is extremely obvious as it is also clear evidence that the professed supernatural world does not acknowledge them.
The stupidity of spending your whole life devoted to a god that your real and natural brain manifests for your satisfaction and then to fully commit and stress yourself to reach what is only a paradoxical heaven within this imagined superficial world that is only available to the dead is an absolute waste of a life.

56 thoughts on “Bang on the money – Christianity’s abject failure.

    1. Christianity has had over 2000 years to date, and so far absolutely nothing of (supernatural ) value to show for it.
      Perhaps you have something to contribute that might cast a new light on the situation?
      Feel free …

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      1. Sheesh! Wot a no-brainer, Ark!

        Didn’t all those guys under fire in WW2, and 1, and almost any other stoush before or after have their very fervent prayers answered when the wars stopped?

        Where the hell have you been all this time, ignoring evidence like that?

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    2. The question always is, compared with what? What have we to show for tens of thousands of years of atheism? Quite literally, nothing.

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        1. He has often stated when all said and done it is a heart issue rather than a head issue so why does he continue ad nauseum to try and justify his beliefs using as many methods as he can scrape up to distance himself from the ”heart issue” (faith).

          I suspect that he, like so many in his situation, feel a little embarrassed that he has nothing of real substance to offer and thus attempts to attach a measure of credibility to the nonsense he parades as ”evidence”.

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          1. Loy over on Jim’s blog is the same way. If, when all is said and done, it’s not about the reality of the story you subscribe, but just the way it makes you feel, why are you spending so much time trying to convince others of the reality of the story. There are lots of stories that I love, that I reread, that make me feel great. But I spend zero time trying to convince others that the fiction I love is real. However, if anybody is looking for book recommendations I am happy to help. 🙂

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          2. SWARN:

            ever read Terry Pratchett? Now there’s a buncha books to change a person’s thinking~! (And a great deal of wisdom in his parable-style too …) (bloody cynic).
            For credibility hard to beat—rather than a planet just floating in space, his world is on the back of a giant turtle equipped with elephants (I think it’s been done before with hundreds of millions of acceptancees, so he can’t be wrong).

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          3. No interest in convincing anyone of anything, as I’ve stated more than once. However, when they make it painfully obvious they have no idea what they’re talking about, I do them the courtesy of making note of it.

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          4. As you have never made a single coherent comment on any bIog you’ve posted that I’ve read, and you are astoundingly ignorant of your own faith/religion, there really is zero probability you would be able to recognise let alone understand any approach that obliged you to actually think outside your indoctrinated worldview.

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          5. How is it possible at the same time to be “indoctrinated” and yet “ignorant of your own faith/religion”? Now, there’s an incoherent statement.

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          6. How is it possible at the same time to be “indoctrinated” and yet “ignorant of your own faith/religion”? Now, there’s an incoherent statement.

            It is not an incoherent statement.

            Being indoctrinated doesn’t imply that you fully know ( or know anything at all) what your faith/religion teaches. In many cases, there is a great chasm between the pew&pulpit, religious practice&theology

            One case

            https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/10/19/survey-shows-most-evangelicals-dont-understand-the-core-beliefs-of-their-faith/

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          7. As Jonathan has said: you believe what you have been indoctrinated to believe, having little or no regard for evidence and fact and merely accept what you been inculcated with by a Priest or peer, often based on upbringing from birth or because of some form of massive guilt trip, usually brought about by serious emotional issues related to sex, drugs,alcohol addiction etc.
            The blogosphere is awash with testimonies about how ”God” saved such people. Their tales of woe are so commonplace they are practically cliché.
            And the best way to recognise this is to listen to a Christian deconvert, and especially a former Professional member of the clergy, be it Priest, Pastor or Vicar.

            You can always read testimonies from members of the Clergy Project.

            http://clergyproject.org/

            Or watch a Youtube video of Dan Barker as a starter. He’s got the real story of what it was like to be a Professional Believer and then come to the light and be normal again.

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        2. So the guy has found his Heaven in the arms of a dead guy who was nailed to a cross ‘pour encourager les autres’ two kilo years ago … where’s the harm in that? If—

          —IF he keeps it to himself and doesn’t pollute/pervert the minds of innocents.

          Yeah, and pigs fly too …

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  1. One of the factors that caused me to doubt Christianity was the study of Christian history that led me to reach a very similar conclusion.

    I concluded (whilst still a Christian) that if ‘God’ was the guiding force behind the Christian Church, it’s history sure did not look like that, rather it looked pretty much how a human institution would develop.

    The same for other religions. Buddhism as an example is evolving and becoming aggressive and violent in the parts of the world where it faces Islam, which has already mastered these tactics.

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  2. Nicely done Steve! Excellent. It’s a voluntary delusion. Chris angel still has fans even though his magic is all staged casts, multiple camera shots, mannequins and and editing…and they know it! They just love the idea.

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      1. Anyone who lives on two continents knows it’s all a matter of perspective. He uses your own mindful wishes to fool you. It a religious model, only Angel does his tricks for money.

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          1. Two bottles, misdirection, stooges and staging. Same as every trick. And what may appear on film to be a real audience is often not. Elaborate staging and some good ol fashioned slight of hand/misdirection. Back in the old days they even did this by cherry picking a few verses from a theatrical play. Convinced nearly the entire world some guy came back from the dead.

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          2. I love my computer. So many possibilities!! Remember the deepfakes post? No wonder so much technology arises from the entertainment business. $

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          3. JZ:

            be advised, in the furtherance of ‘Good Works’ I shall purloin and utilise your cynical observation (blackboard with chart).

            It’s a Beaut~!!!

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          4. I need to know also, these tricks are scrutinised by people from close proximity and often multiple sides, how can they be illusional, or does he actively fool your mind somehow as one of the observers rattles the item around inside a bottle?

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  3. It could equally be proved that while there is no material possession differential, the belief gives the committed Christian a peace of mind, and a feeling of understanding the purpose of things, that is denied to the more sceptical, however much the latter may protest about not caring that they don’t know.

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      1. It is, inevitably, regarded as a matter of duty by most believers that they should bring the ‘good news’ to others, and that little children should be suffered (sic) to go to Him. Thus the whole Godfather and Godmother concept.

        These days, though, it happens a lot that with the wide exposure to knowledge and reading available, the stories are treated in the same way as those of the tooth fairy; outgrown. On the latter, is it evil to encourage that belief? Some might say so, but it is largely regarded as innocently fostering the fantasy world of childhood.

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    1. Sorry Prof—no matter how many nails you drive into that bloody coffin it will still float.

      You don’t need nail the lid down—you need pull the rug out from under.
      And that can only be done be getting folks to think for themselves: give ’em the tools, and the methods; then get the hell out of their very indignant way.

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