Probably one of the most difficult discussions to have with a Christian is about a creator.
It certainly seems to be one of their favorite topics if the internet is anything to go by, and especially from all the debates between such luminaries as the late Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, John Lennox, William Lane Craig, Sean Caroll etc etc.
But I feel the subject is never tackled from a completely neutral perspective, as the Christian will always be arguing for their god, naturally, even when they are claiming they are simply trying to demonstrate design in the universe. And of course, with design comes a designer. Or so they wish everyone to believe and accept.
This is, of course is drawing conclusions that, while on the face of it might seem fair, are not, in fact, correct.
And there are several very clever examples that theists use to try to prove this point. I am rather partial to the one that goes something like this: A wind blows through a junk yard, randomly picking up bits and pieces and somehow manages to build a Boeing 747.
This, they assert is how preposterous it is for the universe to have come about by chance. More or less. So … There has to be a designer of some sort.
But the term designer also has more than a hint of intent. For me, it conjures up images of some fantastic being sitting down at a draughtboard , licking the end of his pencil, positioning his slide rule and mumbling … ‘’All righty then! ‘’
And before we know it we are imagining some anthropomorphic being.
But this is not the creator – if there was one -I want to discuss.
And my idea of a creator is certainly not what the theists want to discuss! And their intent is never so transparent either, as we are all only too aware.
I don’t actually believe in any sort of creator, to be honest, but I can’t prove it either way, and I’m perfectly happy in my ignorance.
But if there is/was a creator does it really matter?
Based on current evidence. Not in the least.
But for the next few sentences let’s assume there is one.
He hasn’t shown himself … oops there I go again, anthropomorphising this creator and being sexist to boot!
Sigh … sorry. I don’t feel comfortable with “It” as in my mind it somehow demeans the genius – assuming there is genius – behind whoever designed the universe.
And we are going to accept in this case that evolution is fact, okay? In case anyone wants to throw a spanner in the works. We are no more than by-products of what happens in an environment that supports carbon-based life forms. Period.
So, based on evidence, she has not revealed herself, not communicated in any recognisable way, has never interfered and has simply done the deed and buggered off.
This to me is as close to deism as I can get. It might not be an exact representation, but for me, it’s good enough. It’ll do just nicely, thanks very much.
To date, this proposition cannot be gainsaid – as far as I am aware, and I stand under correction, of course.
Such a belief carries no baggage, has no doctrine, no special books, no intermediary and no requirements.
You certainly don’t have to howl at the moon without your drawers on or cut bits off your penis or vagina.
No one gets damned or tortured for not believing in this creator and you are not required to wear special clothing, funny hats or eat special foods – or not eat as the case may be. It might be nice if this creator deity could send a message that said: ‘’Don’t Eat Other Animals’’, via an instantaneous worldwide You Tube video or Facebook link but … well, we’ll just have to figure this one out for ourselves.
So, there we are. If you wish to believe in THIS creator deity, then good for you.
Now the question I would like to ask is this: How neutral (read honest) are Christians when they are arguing that the universe is designed and therefore has a designer?
Should they not be asked to state up front not only the nature of their designer but also it’s name/s and how they came by their information? Once this is revealed should they not then be obliged to demonstrate the veracity of this source?
To my mind this seems only fair, as they are the ones making all the elaborate claims.
Am I truly being unreasonable or should we think it is fair that if we don’t accept their word and rather dubious text we can, in fact , simply all go to hell!